Minutes:
The Technical Services Delivery
Manager introduced the report and stated it focussed on the whole
portfolio, rather than just tower blocks. He gave some context to
the report and stated it had come before committee due to the
tragedy of Grenfell Tower and the government review on fire safety,
which the MHCLG were currently working on, and although
recommendations had not yet been published, the council were being
proactive. He commented that in March 2019 a fire risk assessment
from the chartered institute would be carried out, although the
council were already upgrading fire doors. He stated that to
install a suppression system in all tower blocks across the borough
would cost £3.3million, and although Essex Fire and Rescue
would give the council £10,000 per block, it would not be
enough money to install them. He summarised and discussed how
during a fire in a block of flats in Chadwell St Mary, the compartmentalisation system
had worked, so no one was injured and only a small number of
properties were damaged.
Councillor Redsell opened the debate and stated that the
Chadwell St Mary tower block fire had
shown that the systems in place were working as the fire had
remained in one flat. She asked if the Essex Fire and Rescue policy
of staying inside your homes if there was a fire was also followed
by Thurrock Council. The Technical Services Delivery Manager
replied that the ‘stay put’ policy was supported by
Thurrock Council and was in place in all tower blocks. He stated
this was the most effective way of keeping a fire from spreading as
residents did not impede firefighter’s in stairwells and kept
the fire from spreading as doors remained closed.
Councillor Liddiard questioned if the council was replacing front
doors on flats, or communal doors, and it was confirmed that front
doors on flats were being replaced, although it was felt some
communal doors might also require upgrading. Councillor Pothecary
then stated she felt there were problems in tower blocks of
communal fire doors being left open, and asked if the council could
communicate with residents the importance of keeping them shut for
their safety. The Technical Services Delivery Manager replied he
would look into this, and stated that as communal doors were used
most, they were the doors which needed replacing more often. He
stated that officers undertook monthly walk-throughs in flats to
identify issues, and CCTV was in place to identify residents who
were abusing fire doors, and tackle the source of the problem. The
Assistant Director Housing added that she chaired the monthly fire
safety meeting, during which officers shared pictures of problems
in communal flat blocks so issues could be solved.
Councillor Pothecary expressed her concern with residents smoking
in lifts, as this was anti-social behaviour as well as being a
safety concern. She stated she felt glad there was CCTV and asked
if this could be checked regularly, to which the Technical Services
Delivery Manager replied affirmatively. Councillor Redsell agreed
with Councillor Pothecary’s point
regarding keeping communal fire doors open, as it allowed
non-residents to access areas they were not allowed in, which could
cause a safety concern.
Councillor Pothecary then questioned whether the extra money which
was needed to fund the sprinkler system could come from the HRA or
the general fund. The Assistant Director Housing replied that both
budgets were ring-fenced, so no money could be taken from the
general fund, and there was no money in the HRA. Councillor Redsell
asked if the council knew who lived in its high-rise flats, as one
of the problems in Grenfell had been firefighters being unable to
identify residents. The Assistant Director Housing replied that on
any given night, it would be difficult to know exactly who was in
the block of flats, as people might have friends over or may have
gone on holiday. She stated that many properties had been sold
under the right to buy scheme and then been rented out, so the
council were unaware of who was living in those properties. She
added that the council knew the tenants of the flats, and the
members of their household. She also clarified that plans of the
building and a list of all vulnerable residents was kept in a
secure box at the base of the block of flats, so if residents did
need to be evacuated, the fire service knew which houses had
vulnerable people living in them.
Councillor Liddiard then asked on policies regarding low-rise
blocks, as some of these had wooden rather than concrete floors,
and asked if they should follow the ‘stay put’ policy.
The Assistant Director Housing replied that she would look into
this.
RESOLVED: That the Committee:
1.
Commented on the contents of the report and ongoing
fire safety work undertaken by the housing service to ensure all
council owned property is safe.
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